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	<title>Comments on: Superstitions about China Earthquake Worry Some</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert Vance</title>
		<link>http://www.teachabroadchina.com/china-earthquake-superstitions-worry-some/#comment-2773</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Vance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James,

I can only assume that you did not closely read what I wrote. How do you get that I am an atheist from what I wrote? Here is exactly what I wrote...

I think there are a lot of Chinese people who refuse to succumb to these superstitions and probably completely agree with you. Well, minus the “There is a God” part of course. It seems to be mainly the younger generation that is wrapped up in this superstition.

Do you not realize that most people in China do NOT believe in God? Have you ever been here before? I was clearly stating that Chinese people would not agree with Sean that "There is a God." Just because I state that most Chinese people are atheists doesn't make me one or is there some strange logic here that I am completely missing?I don't think you spent anytime at all reading what I actually wrote. You pull this "obviously you are an atheist" out of thin air. Read what I wrote again...

As far as the last part of your post is concerned, I don't really understand where you are going with it. Here is what I said in the previous post:

It seems to be mainly the younger generation that is wrapped up in this superstition. The older generation remembers the hard times(famines, earthquakes,etc) and believe that these recent tragedies are just part of a cycle in China.

Those statements are just based on conversations that I have had with people here in China. You can choose to disagree with them but unless you have been here and actually talked to people about their perceptions of the disaster, I do not think you can automatically disqualify what I said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James,</p>
<p>I can only assume that you did not closely read what I wrote. How do you get that I am an atheist from what I wrote? Here is exactly what I wrote&#8230;</p>
<p>I think there are a lot of Chinese people who refuse to succumb to these superstitions and probably completely agree with you. Well, minus the “There is a God” part of course. It seems to be mainly the younger generation that is wrapped up in this superstition.</p>
<p>Do you not realize that most people in China do NOT believe in God? Have you ever been here before? I was clearly stating that Chinese people would not agree with Sean that &#8220;There is a God.&#8221; Just because I state that most Chinese people are atheists doesn&#8217;t make me one or is there some strange logic here that I am completely missing?I don&#8217;t think you spent anytime at all reading what I actually wrote. You pull this &#8220;obviously you are an atheist&#8221; out of thin air. Read what I wrote again&#8230;</p>
<p>As far as the last part of your post is concerned, I don&#8217;t really understand where you are going with it. Here is what I said in the previous post:</p>
<p>It seems to be mainly the younger generation that is wrapped up in this superstition. The older generation remembers the hard times(famines, earthquakes,etc) and believe that these recent tragedies are just part of a cycle in China.</p>
<p>Those statements are just based on conversations that I have had with people here in China. You can choose to disagree with them but unless you have been here and actually talked to people about their perceptions of the disaster, I do not think you can automatically disqualify what I said.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.teachabroadchina.com/china-earthquake-superstitions-worry-some/#comment-2772</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Robert Vance:

"Minus the God part of course..." obviously you are an atheist. I agree with Sean's view point on the possibility of free will although the outcome is questionable in the result of what pursuit but how is the rest of his points raised across make you think it's a good post? His Thomas Edison quotation is simply inadequate, if not completely irrelevant to his implication of superstition. 
Now, you are talking about whether people believe in superstition based on the era they were born in. That is just ridiculous! Your counter argument based on your last post would be the experience of hardship but surviving from natural disasters as a victim or being through a period of natural disaster as a bystander does not make that person change his views about whether there is a supernatural cause of disasters and hardships. These two relationships are completely exclusive to each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Robert Vance:</p>
<p>&#8220;Minus the God part of course&#8230;&#8221; obviously you are an atheist. I agree with Sean&#8217;s view point on the possibility of free will although the outcome is questionable in the result of what pursuit but how is the rest of his points raised across make you think it&#8217;s a good post? His Thomas Edison quotation is simply inadequate, if not completely irrelevant to his implication of superstition.<br />
Now, you are talking about whether people believe in superstition based on the era they were born in. That is just ridiculous! Your counter argument based on your last post would be the experience of hardship but surviving from natural disasters as a victim or being through a period of natural disaster as a bystander does not make that person change his views about whether there is a supernatural cause of disasters and hardships. These two relationships are completely exclusive to each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Vance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Vance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean,

Great post. I think there are a lot of Chinese people who refuse to succumb to these superstitions and probably completely agree with you. Well, minus the "There is a God" part of course. It seems to be mainly the younger generation that is wrapped up in this superstition. The older generation remembers the hard times(famines, earthquakes,etc) and believe that these recent tragedies are just part of a cycle in China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean,</p>
<p>Great post. I think there are a lot of Chinese people who refuse to succumb to these superstitions and probably completely agree with you. Well, minus the &#8220;There is a God&#8221; part of course. It seems to be mainly the younger generation that is wrapped up in this superstition. The older generation remembers the hard times(famines, earthquakes,etc) and believe that these recent tragedies are just part of a cycle in China.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.teachabroadchina.com/china-earthquake-superstitions-worry-some/#comment-1975</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are good times, and there are bad times. Good times come after bad times. Bad times come after good times. Tomas Edison once said: Success is 90% hardwork and 10% talent. I live in a Tornado zone but never once seen one, and my friend who used to live here moved to London and got hit by their Tornado (when on earth does Tornado happens in London!!). There is a God, but he's so liberal that he will let you decide how you want to live your life. Superstition or not, we're all human beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are good times, and there are bad times. Good times come after bad times. Bad times come after good times. Tomas Edison once said: Success is 90% hardwork and 10% talent. I live in a Tornado zone but never once seen one, and my friend who used to live here moved to London and got hit by their Tornado (when on earth does Tornado happens in London!!). There is a God, but he&#8217;s so liberal that he will let you decide how you want to live your life. Superstition or not, we&#8217;re all human beings.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 10:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the student who thinks this is a mere coincidence does not major in statistics or business related courses. If you take account of all the chances for each numerical fit related to the number 8 to happen which did as mentioned, in a probablitly calculation, that's got to be a pretty amazing coincidence.  
Also the number 8 that sounds similar to Fa 'fortune', also relates to Fa3 the third tone which means Law, which can be related to the Law of Buddha. Maybe the time is arriving or has arrived, the time when the Law without boundary shall judge the people on Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the student who thinks this is a mere coincidence does not major in statistics or business related courses. If you take account of all the chances for each numerical fit related to the number 8 to happen which did as mentioned, in a probablitly calculation, that&#8217;s got to be a pretty amazing coincidence.<br />
Also the number 8 that sounds similar to Fa &#8216;fortune&#8217;, also relates to Fa3 the third tone which means Law, which can be related to the Law of Buddha. Maybe the time is arriving or has arrived, the time when the Law without boundary shall judge the people on Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Kawaiiiii.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kawaiiiii.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 21:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another coincidence: 
If you consider the May 12th as Day 0 (5.12 Sichuan earthquake) and count until August 8th (8.08 Beijing Olympics) it is exactly 88 days. And, China Central Television has announced that the official magnitude of the earthquake is now 8.0 It's pretty scary all these coincidence added up together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another coincidence:<br />
If you consider the May 12th as Day 0 (5.12 Sichuan earthquake) and count until August 8th (8.08 Beijing Olympics) it is exactly 88 days. And, China Central Television has announced that the official magnitude of the earthquake is now 8.0 It&#8217;s pretty scary all these coincidence added up together.</p>
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		<title>By: yugung</title>
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		<dc:creator>yugung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lily said: Few months ago, Dalai lama ever mentioned about China’s recent few flood disasters due to ecology poorly maintained in Tibet Mountain Region by the Chinese.(eg deforrestation) and he sincerely hope to advise China cos he mentioned only Tibetans knows how to take good care of the Tibet’s nature. That’s the reason behind real autonomy for Tibet. Hope China agree soon in order to prevent further castrophe. May I wish all people now suffering in the disaster stop suffering.
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Hi Lily,

I can understand why Dalai the politician made claim such as this, but in reality the Tibetans nomads are largely responsible. There is wide spread over grazing of the land. It is a headche trying to put an end to it.
The Government has banned logging through out China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lily said: Few months ago, Dalai lama ever mentioned about China’s recent few flood disasters due to ecology poorly maintained in Tibet Mountain Region by the Chinese.(eg deforrestation) and he sincerely hope to advise China cos he mentioned only Tibetans knows how to take good care of the Tibet’s nature. That’s the reason behind real autonomy for Tibet. Hope China agree soon in order to prevent further castrophe. May I wish all people now suffering in the disaster stop suffering.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Hi Lily,</p>
<p>I can understand why Dalai the politician made claim such as this, but in reality the Tibetans nomads are largely responsible. There is wide spread over grazing of the land. It is a headche trying to put an end to it.<br />
The Government has banned logging through out China.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 18:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is really worrisome is the way Chinese relate natural disasters to the withdrawal of mandate of heaven.  Many emperors lost their empire during years of disasters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is really worrisome is the way Chinese relate natural disasters to the withdrawal of mandate of heaven.  Many emperors lost their empire during years of disasters.</p>
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		<title>By: lily</title>
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		<dc:creator>lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 12:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few months ago, Dalai lama ever mentioned about China's recent few flood disasters due to ecology poorly maintained in Tibet Mountain Region by the Chinese.(eg deforrestation) and he sincerely hope to advise China cos he mentioned only Tibetans knows how to take good care of the Tibet's nature. That's the reason behind real autonomy for Tibet. Hope China agree soon in order to prevent further castrophe. May I wish all people now suffering in the disaster stop suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few months ago, Dalai lama ever mentioned about China&#8217;s recent few flood disasters due to ecology poorly maintained in Tibet Mountain Region by the Chinese.(eg deforrestation) and he sincerely hope to advise China cos he mentioned only Tibetans knows how to take good care of the Tibet&#8217;s nature. That&#8217;s the reason behind real autonomy for Tibet. Hope China agree soon in order to prevent further castrophe. May I wish all people now suffering in the disaster stop suffering.</p>
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		<title>By: china   wuguoqiang</title>
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		<dc:creator>china   wuguoqiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 07:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a friend of China, recently took place in China's earthquake has caused the death of 20,000 people this year, China is indeed not a quiet year, but please be assured that any of the Chinese people are strong, the history of 5000 Casting of the Chinese people a strong spirit, we will be building our home, will be dedicated to the world the Olympic Games next perfect, we do not believe that superstition, believe that only force, the spirit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a friend of China, recently took place in China&#8217;s earthquake has caused the death of 20,000 people this year, China is indeed not a quiet year, but please be assured that any of the Chinese people are strong, the history of 5000 Casting of the Chinese people a strong spirit, we will be building our home, will be dedicated to the world the Olympic Games next perfect, we do not believe that superstition, believe that only force, the spirit!</p>
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