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	<title>Comments on: Hainan Island or Hainan Military Base?</title>
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		<title>By: FOARP</title>
		<link>http://www.teachabroadchina.com/hainan-island-or-hainan-military-base/comment-page-1/#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>FOARP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 23:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill - There are also other factors which go into choosing launch sites - like keeping them a long way away from population centres, but that might actually be a good idea as to its purpose. 

@Falen - One of the problems that China has is that for it to be absolutely sure of security, it needs to have an army, navy and airforce strong enough to beat all of its neighbours - however any army strong enough to defend a country against all of a country&#039;s neighbours will also be strong enough to threaten them. These countries will then form alliances in an effort to counter the perceived threat and you then end up with an arms race. This is the dilema which countries like Germany have faced throughout their history. The only real solution is collective security organisations like the Shanghai Co-operation Organisation and NATO - but these blocks are also likely to conflict with each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill &#8211; There are also other factors which go into choosing launch sites &#8211; like keeping them a long way away from population centres, but that might actually be a good idea as to its purpose. </p>
<p>@Falen &#8211; One of the problems that China has is that for it to be absolutely sure of security, it needs to have an army, navy and airforce strong enough to beat all of its neighbours &#8211; however any army strong enough to defend a country against all of a country&#8217;s neighbours will also be strong enough to threaten them. These countries will then form alliances in an effort to counter the perceived threat and you then end up with an arms race. This is the dilema which countries like Germany have faced throughout their history. The only real solution is collective security organisations like the Shanghai Co-operation Organisation and NATO &#8211; but these blocks are also likely to conflict with each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the on-going territorial dispute with Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia.  Hainan is one of the best locations for naval presence for China, especially dealing with Philippines and Vietnam.

Don&#039;t forget the lesson Vietnam learned from Chin in the 1980&#039;s.

Hainan, being the southern most Chinese territory, at least for now, is also prime location for the Chinese space program.  Space ships get bonus speed due to the closeness to the equator.  This bonus is also great for other kinds of rockets too.  And therefore a great place for space port and other rocket related installations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the on-going territorial dispute with Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia.  Hainan is one of the best locations for naval presence for China, especially dealing with Philippines and Vietnam.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the lesson Vietnam learned from Chin in the 1980&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Hainan, being the southern most Chinese territory, at least for now, is also prime location for the Chinese space program.  Space ships get bonus speed due to the closeness to the equator.  This bonus is also great for other kinds of rockets too.  And therefore a great place for space port and other rocket related installations.</p>
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		<title>By: Falen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Falen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People bashing China&#039;s military build-up need to first answer the question exactly what level of military development is appropriate for China?  Whether you are peace loving or not, an army armed with rocks and sticks is clearly not appropriate.

And the whole &quot;money could be spent on the poor&quot; argument fail to take into account that investing in military provides peace and stability.  Peace and stability is in fact not &quot;free&quot; and it is naive to strip yourself naked and expect the &quot;international system&quot; or United States to safeguard China&#039;s interest.  Certainly nobody was looking out for China&#039;s interest when Japanes invaded, why should China trust the system now?

What&#039;s wrong with having secret bases?  The fundamental nature of military affair is deception.  I don&#039;t see any problem with military keeping secrets to themselves.

Considering the land mass of China and the long coast line, the level of spending currently is in fact not enough to safeguard the security of the nation.  Considering the population too, I quite frankly see nothing wrong with China spending 5 times the amount of budget as United States, today that budget is less than 1/5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People bashing China&#8217;s military build-up need to first answer the question exactly what level of military development is appropriate for China?  Whether you are peace loving or not, an army armed with rocks and sticks is clearly not appropriate.</p>
<p>And the whole &#8220;money could be spent on the poor&#8221; argument fail to take into account that investing in military provides peace and stability.  Peace and stability is in fact not &#8220;free&#8221; and it is naive to strip yourself naked and expect the &#8220;international system&#8221; or United States to safeguard China&#8217;s interest.  Certainly nobody was looking out for China&#8217;s interest when Japanes invaded, why should China trust the system now?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with having secret bases?  The fundamental nature of military affair is deception.  I don&#8217;t see any problem with military keeping secrets to themselves.</p>
<p>Considering the land mass of China and the long coast line, the level of spending currently is in fact not enough to safeguard the security of the nation.  Considering the population too, I quite frankly see nothing wrong with China spending 5 times the amount of budget as United States, today that budget is less than 1/5.</p>
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		<title>By: FOARP</title>
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		<dc:creator>FOARP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 11:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt it&#039;s for an attack on Taiwan. Hainan island is too far away from Taiwan to act as a military base and forms part of the Guangzhou military region, Taiwan is dealt with by the Nanjing military region. More likely the base is to act as a protected anchorage for the new fleet China is building to patrol the sea lanes between Southern China and the middle east. Just like everyone else, they are worried about being cut off from energy supplies. This doesn&#039;t mean there isn&#039;t a build-up directed at Taiwan, but the bases from which an attack on Taiwan might be launched are already pretty well established. The missile build-up has already reached more than 1,400, including both ballistic and land-attack cruise missiles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt it&#8217;s for an attack on Taiwan. Hainan island is too far away from Taiwan to act as a military base and forms part of the Guangzhou military region, Taiwan is dealt with by the Nanjing military region. More likely the base is to act as a protected anchorage for the new fleet China is building to patrol the sea lanes between Southern China and the middle east. Just like everyone else, they are worried about being cut off from energy supplies. This doesn&#8217;t mean there isn&#8217;t a build-up directed at Taiwan, but the bases from which an attack on Taiwan might be launched are already pretty well established. The missile build-up has already reached more than 1,400, including both ballistic and land-attack cruise missiles.</p>
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